Allods Online Forum

People don't play on p2p server because it's full hardcore and unfriendly in almost every pve aspect (well pvp is cool on p2p). Maybe if they will add some items from f2p servers such as master goblin and better mounts, easier raids and astral, there will be still a chance for smugglers paradise.

Unq_swag welcome back Hmm Diament u said unfriendly? If u mean on players i dont think so...i playing on empire,and if anyone need help with anything feel free to pm me,i will help with everything,i am in game about 10-15h every day ..

It's completely friendly

F2P its hard with low runes and easy with high runes, P2P is the balance of it That's why there is no runes.

And yes, come League/Empire and i'm sure everyone around will show you otherwise of what you think of it.

Yes both factions are rlly friendly.Even if my main char is on empire,i have lvl 9 leauge char,and sometimes hanging out with ligs we talking about everything,and they are rlly friendly even if i am their enemy in game like those ligs

I just mean that all endgame content is a bit too hard, and I cant surive without master goblin or big bank 120+. But I wish good luck for all true f2p(p2p?) players on smugglers paradise.

P2P server for me was like a wish came true. NO-MORE-PAY-TO-WIN! FK
YEAH! I was exited then as You are now Unq_swag. But.... what killed
that idea and server itself for me was:

1. BIG ONE. Total lack of
any sort of quality control over released content. I don't know how
things are now but back then (3-4 months) game was broken, glitchy,
shitty, very poorly translated, not to mention localisation issues that
in many cases caused me to tableflip /and eventually ragequit/. I was
even more mad cause this was a SUBSCRIPTION (!!!) server, i
expected some damn quality and things running flawless not just good
enough cause i fking payed them for it ! >.<. Agin it's just as I
wanted things to be, Your opinion may be different and I'm cool with
that.
2. As Diament said, I said and many said before. P2P lack the
good stuff that is on F2P like goblin helper erly in the game, helper
upgrade for resource gathering, erly worthwhile bag/bank expansion,
things that make the game comfortable and fun to play. Not to mention
all the awsm ship vanity items, char costumes, advanced mounts and mount
skins.

I hope You find what You are looking for on P2P Unq_swag. I didn't.
Cheers !

Quoted from "Spinecrawler"

As Diament said, I said and many said before. P2P lack the
good stuff that is on F2P like goblin helper erly in the game

Early game without you do exactly once. Reincarnations have access to it.

Quoted from "Spinecrawler"

helper upgrade for resource gathering

I can see how that can be annoying to some people. But it's not gamebreaking.

Quoted from "Spinecrawler"

erly worthwhile bag/bank expansion

This provides great incentive to do Tep's and Eclipse every week, organized guilds will eventually all have big bags and banks. This imo is great and adds much needed longevity to the content.

Quoted from "Spinecrawler"

all the awsm ship vanity items

That one is true. But again, not gamebreaking.

Quoted from "Spinecrawler"

char costumes

All except prophetic card and straight up boutique purchases are there.
Seasonal holiday ones like Halloween for example are purchasable at a vendor for anniversary coins during the corresponding holiday.

Quoted from "Spinecrawler"

advanced mounts and mount
skins.

If you mean mounts with balanced skills like fury, gryphon, lion, magic carpet, dog, cat, mammoth and their astral versions - they are all there.
If you mean mounts with multiple unbalanced skills, that are capable of doing actual damage like Manabike/Titan/Wraith/Moloch - these are toxic and gamebreaking. They take away from playing your actual character and should have never been introduced.

They are main reason I am not coming back to f2p, everything else I could actually work around with farming etc. Except for this. No matter how much effort or money I would put in - people will have them and people will use them. I detest them and their influence on the gameplay.

Yes, You are right Dala. Absence of some things that makes You look better or other that makes game a bit less annoying are not gamebraking and abviously not necessary to enjoy the game.
But for me this was very annoying and unfair. I felt like I was playing incomplete game which I paid real hard cash. All I wanted was Allods
minus (Pay to Win) but for me i got Allods minus (pay to win + good fun stuff that i hoped for) well i couldn't jump over that so .... bye bye Allods :<

Helper is free in Coba, cant gather resources yeah, you need to waste 2 second each time you want to gather something ( 2 SENCONDS...jesus), all the costumes are also avalaible, and that cool stuff like faster mounts, big banks and bags could be obtained in raids, i still got the Gorluxors tower bag, and is enough for me at the moment, could be better, for sure, but until league became more populated im pretty f***.

The most unfriendly people isnt playing anymore, all people in the league help each other, with our lenguages issues, but nothing that google translator can not handle.

The only real thing we dont got in P2P are the PvP mounts, and it must be like that or pvp (the best part of the p2p server) will be a crap.

I bought a month on the p2p server to check it out.

But there where several things i expected in ther server.
1. i found 2 players in YT... nice so the server is just too dead for me.
2. i thought that the patch that removed all the weapons and armor models did not come in this server, so you didnt look teh same from lvl 3 - 59
3.i though group adventures and bosses droped the mounts and costumes just like in WOW, not just go to a dude and buy it...

Quoted from "BlitzCriegPoP"

But there where several things i expected in ther server.
1. i found 2 players in YT... nice so the server is just too dead for me.

Well, there are periods of the day that are less ppl online.
THo, when i go F2P i see 30/35 players in YT. Is this the number of population there? No, people are everywhere doing stuff. Slackers stay YT everyday.

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2. i thought that the patch that removed all the weapons and armor models did not come in this server, so you didnt look teh same from lvl 3 - 59

Why for for some ppl a game is about costumes?... You do have changes rare gear isn't the same as uncommon and so on... Personalized gear is the upgradable i agree with it. You want good looks? Work for it.

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3.i though group adventures and bosses droped the mounts and costumes just like in WOW, not just go to a dude and buy it...

The "dude" sells them to ppl before 60. After that you get everything in astral, raids, pvp. Have you made an Astral and got a mount? My first 2 gave a rhino and skin for it.

I just agree with the fact the server should have more "respect" than the F2P coz ppl need to pay 2 play and not donate. Tho, except for 2323 mounts over the 213123123123 existing ones and some crappy costumes Please give me a break. If you like to PAY like a maniac stay in F2P and fight over wallets that have a sword/staff/etc different from yours with same stats. The content is all there in P2P.

Well i want the mounts befour im lvl 60, sure allods do have packed with teleporters on some location. still i dont like running all over the place.

I know that rare looks different, but i will spend like 90% of the time in the default gear.

I can check how many players i can find at fridaynight tommorow. if there are stil only like 3 or 4 people there i can found, this server is not enough to pay for by my opiniun.

when they made pay to play server because people didnt want pay to win items in game, they took it too literal -_-, we meant make a server but still keep vanity and stuff in item shop.... and normal mounts( not battle mounts) things that dont effect the way a player wins instead they just take ll the good fancy looking stuff out along with the pay to win stuff, pay to win server on allods sucks compared to other games sub servers other games offer epic things you can get for being sub, whereas allods is just lame. you farm constantly just to get the stuff... woula been nice to keep vanity and basic mountss in an item shop for that server so less famring for that stuff and farm for things you actually need but im happy to stay f2p im happy i dont feel pressured or anything, and its up to me wether i want to spend or not and i couldnt care if someones more cashop then me its just a game afterall and i still manage to have my fun anyways regardless of pay to win people i tried p2p and it lacked too much for me if they would have it the way i mentione above maybe i would have stayed on it and to person above you already have to work and farm so hard to afford your refines and everything else on that server people dont have the time to farm for their appearance + try to farm for their gear related stuff too. way too much work i saw nothing wrong with being able to buy a couple vnity peicess with real money its not a pay to win feature thats one of the fun features of allods is the nice vanity an that should at leats be buyable on pay to play server, its not really all that fun i notice you farm even more on that server anyways just like f2p

Quoted from "xxtammyjayxx"

thats one of the fun features of allods is the nice vanity an that should at leats be buyable on pay to play server, its not really all that fun i notice you farm even more on that server anyways just like f2p

Well ofc you and everyone play whever they please. Tho let me tell you something, you have lots of costumes you can buy in P2P as for F2P. You costumes you win by play in P2P and in F2P you, or someone else before have them to sell, already bought from Cash Shop. F2P everything is from Cash Shop even you you buy in Auction House someone already did. If nobody spends on those costumes boxes on Cash Shop, you have no costumes and then, comparing the servers, and only then!, P2P have more costumes.

About pressure well it's discussable, you have your opinion and i have mine. Who's right? It's everyone's call...

I don't feel the pressure that i need thousands of gold for upgrades, Great, ships, Glyphs, etc and enjoy just the game and get happy to get a cool mount in a cool raid or everything good from role playing. But i do feel it if i need to get another thousands just to buy things i don't need, to get some low runes, to see ppl almost one shot me coz they have 7 levels more in runes that i "freely" got, coz my mounts cost a lot to have, and so on.

It's always a point of view tho just answer to me this simple, little, and ofc not pertinent question:

How many gold you need to have a rank 6 mount, a bigger bag than the starter one, a loot helper, costumes from Cash Shop, a second earing, a trinket (Wizard's one, that everyone have)? I could go on... Then, yes, count it for runes and add it with the the other amount.

Ofc you can farm all this tho calculate the time you take plus the hours you have to play an tell me how many years you'll to be 100% and be medium player (yes allods is gear>runes>skill). If you enjoy only PVE at minimal yes it might be enough...

It's simple math. And more easy yet: put that in donation real money and tell me how many years can you play in subserver?

Not to mention that having some stats on a 180 days "look" on weapons... That one was the cheery on top of the cake from allods...

And pls, stop mentioning 2912837189273 costumes coz this is a game, not cloth shop...

P.S.: Tell me where you did you found an NPC in F2P that sells costumes that the same NPC in P2P server doesn't have them!




And will just finish with this:

http://en.allods.com/subscription

QUOTE:
"All subscription players are under equal conditions, no matter which period of subscirption has been paid for. There is no Boutique on the server, so no extra items that give advantage can be purchased."
ofc everyone reads on it's own way, tho for me it's all said: i want a game not work (F2P) or a wallet slap in the face after months/years of play.

Quoted from "xxtammyjayxx"

when they made pay to play server because people didnt want pay to win items in game, they took it too literal -_-

That's the point. They took all the stuff. Stuff like extra reincs slots, which is so damn stupid... why I am allowed to have only one reincarnation? Extra rubies, you can't make same builds like on F2P, why they didn't put somewhere those CS rubies and skill points in form of a reward for something in the game (raids for example). Or your weapon glow from runes, that was cool feature, i can think of few ways of making them into P2P w/o runes. Or reputation grind... they increased exp gain bcuz there are no boost, but what about reputation? Grinding rep at P2P is so damn pain in the ass. I could probably bring more examples like this.

Those from above and server being almost empy, keeps me on F2P.
I would willingly leave F2P if not those stuff i have mentioned.

Quoted from "Wube"

Extra rubies, you can't make same builds like on F2P, why they didn't put somewhere those CS rubies and skill points

we get extra skill point and rubies every 10 levels, isn't that equivalent to the cs items?

Quoted from "Heal3r101"

Quoted from "Wube"

Extra rubies, you can't make same builds like on F2P, why they didn't put somewhere those CS rubies and skill points

we get extra skill point and rubies every 10 levels, isn't that equivalent to the cs items?

You do get extra, but it's still 3 less rubies and 3 less talent points than absolute maximum you can get on the f2p.
Still, amount of people with both 4th and 5th page and Legendary Sacrament scroll on the f2p is most likely very small.